Porzelt, Hoss, Keim, Schnappauf, Zipfel, Stadelman, Weizgert, Eichorn
Kestel, Gerber, Nothaas, Sikora, Shikora, Stadelmann Borglum Genealogy Family Tree

The red color follows my genealogy back through Margaret Hoss (my mother) and her direct maternal and paternal predecessors.
Here's her Porzelt genealogy story

The Hoss family tree follows through Margaret Hoss and her maternal and paternal predecessors in the table.

Generations occur from left to right by column

Hoss genealogy family tree, the little we know of it. Can you help?

If so, email me

( Some of the following Hoss info was provided by Jim Schembs, some of which conflicts with Hoss records,... but that's the way it goes! Jim's Hoss info was discovered online by Robert Hoss, who had Jim contact me)

*There is much "Schembs, or Schombs," geneology info available at www.schembs.com, but you need a password to get in to the good stuff. You can contact Jim Schembs for a password .
Here is the connection:
We share a common grandfather, Johann Peter Schembs, born 1769 in Undenheim and died 1839 in Laubenheim. On your side the lineage looks like this:
Joh. Peter Schembs *1769
Daughter Maria Magdalena Schembs *1801, marries Joseph Hoss I, *1796
Adam Hoss *1830
Johann Gregor Hoss *1860
Jakob Johann Hoss *1892
Margaret Hoss *1927
Margaret and I are 5th cousins. That makes you and me 5th cousins once removed.
Jim Schembs

**Provided by Peter Schultz pswiesbaden at googlemail.com

Wendelinus also had a son Johann, (below), then our relation's generations follow to the right

(Josef's brother from above) Johann Gregor Hoss b Jun 11, 1860 d Apr 24, 1896 (occupation: locksmith) married Katharina _______ b Apr1, 1856 , d Mar 15, 1925 (she did not remarry)	Fritz Hoss b d1962, buried Mainz-Kastel	Werner Hoss married Trude
	Albert Hoss b Oct 29, 1880 d Mar 8, 1955 occupation: locksmith married Gertrude Dorr b Mar 9, 1880, d Sep 23, 1960	Michael Hoss b Apr 18, 1905 d May 10, 1980 occupation:locksmith married Susanne Becker b Mar 10, 1912 d May 29, 1951 then married Gertrude	Albert Hoss b Apr, 1930 occupation: electrician married Helene Marquardt b May , 1936   reportedly one daughter with Gertrude	Robert Hoss b Dec, 1956 married Marion Heussner b Sept, , 1955   Susanne Hoss b Sept , 1963
	Elizabeth Hoss b Feb 17, 1886 d Nov 5, 1942 married Sebastian Zerbe (Magdalena's brother-in-law) b Feb17,1886 d Nov 5, 1942 other related Zerbes(?): Elizabeth (Merkamp) Zerbe b Dec 6-1902 Berta (Fischer) Zerbe b Mar 23, 1889 Herta Zerbe b Sept 3, 1913 Thomas Zerbe Otto Zerbe
	Jacob Johann Hoss citizenship b Mar 29, 1892 d Feb 26, 1953 WWI photo in uniform occupation: machinist then sausage maker, article about Hoss German Sausage Shop history died of heart attack during court testimony after being sued by man who tripped on gas meter in sidewalk in front of his store, 4 months after the death of his son Ferdinand married Margarethe "Gerda" Porzelt (family tree below) b May 13, 1888 d April 29, 1969 Family photo	Ferdinand Hoss b Oct 8, 1919 d Oct 29, 1952 Cologne-Muehlheim 1940 photo d Oct 29, 1952 Rochester NY married Ruth Cockburn Ferdinand Hoss as infant as teen	Michael Hoss (adopted by Larry Rossiter and name changed to Michael Rossiter after Ferdinand's death-by-drowning in a storm while duck hunting) stepsister Maureen Rossiter born to Ruth and Larry Rossiter (no Hoss blood)
		Margaret Madeline Hoss b May 24, 1927 d April 15, 2011 very young with mother and brother married Carsten Borglum b Mar 3, 1924 occupation farmer then sausage maker then silo salesman then in bookstore see Borglum family tree	Keith Borglum (me!) Donna Borglum Craig Borglum Kurt Borglum Ken Borglum Chris Borglum see Borglum family tree	see Borglum family tree
	Magdalena Hoss (name?) married Johann Zerbe (Elizabeth's husband's brother)
	Michael Hoss b d	Anneliese Hoss married ____ Kippert	Note: Emmi to the left was discovered in an obituary sent to me. The only link I could find was that she was survived by Anneliese Kippert. Is she Anneliesa's sister? click here for her obituary and photo
		Emmi Hoss bJuly 31, 1921 Mainz-Kastel d April 8, 2002 Niedernhausen married____ Wirth

 Thanks and appreciation to Robert Hoss, who found the beginnings of our version of the Hoss family tree online, and was able to add all Jakob's sibling information and the generations prior to Jakob. You can reach Robert at m.r.hoss@hotmail.de
Here's Robert Hoss's Excel spreadsheet on what he has found about Hoss Genealogy which includes more details, dates and professions

Porzelt genealogy family tree, the little we know of it. Can you help? If so, email me

Here's Margaret Hoss Borglum's Porzelt genealogy story

Here's more Porzelt info received in 2009 in reference to the above table. I love getting these letters; send more!

Dear Misters,

I'm French and I've began a genealogy of my uncle, born in Deutschland! I've see your web site for the family HOSS & BORGLUM, I see much informations about PORZELT Georg & EICHORN Agnès, that's what about I write to you!! (sorry my english, it's very crazy to talk whith a another language!!)

This is my information:

PORZELT Agnès : born 11 september 1876 in NEUKENROTH , dead 13 july 1952 in NEUKENROTH (city of STOCKHEIM : state of Bayern,goverment district of Oberfranken, landkreis of Kronach)
ZIPFEL Adam: born 18 october 1874 in GIFTING (city of WILHELMSTHAL : state of Bayern, goverment district of Oberfranken, landkreis of Kronach)
Marriage in January 1901 (no more informations of the date!) in the city of POSSECK (near Pressig http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressig )
One child : ZIPFEL Josef born 26 june 1903 in GIFTING, dead 17 july 1985 in KRONACH
About PORZELT Georg & EICHORN Agnès, I've no informations about city of born and dead, have you more informations?
Hoping that I could help you advance in your site.
I am at your disposal for further information or for documents that I have in my possession

Sincerely

HIRCQ Yann
5 rue Henri ROUSSEL
51300 ORCONTE
France
email : donkarnage51 at hotmail.com

More info:

from Christian Porzelt Sept 2009 and March 2010:

email him christianporzelt at hotmail.de ("at" = @ to fool spammers)

You have got many Pictures of the Family, some of them are very old and I didn't know about their existence.

I've only got 2 very small pictures of Paulus (Paul) Porzelt and his wife Agnes when they were old, from the early 40s.
I once had the photo of them that you have (with the two girls), but my Greatgrandma Fini tore it, because she thought they were
both not really good taken. From whom did you get this pictures, because I asked, but don't found some ?

But now I'm going to tell you some mistakes in your page:

About Georg Porzelt sen. you wrote:
"WWI veteran who lost a leg in the war. photo in WWI uniform"
The picture is not a picture of him, but of his son Georg junior, who lost a leg in the war. (webmaster's note: now corrected above)
(Actually it's hard to believe, that Georg senior was sent to war when he was 65 years old)
My Greatgrandma also told me, that Georg senior drank a lot of alcohol, because he had very intensive ache.
Probably it was because he got Pneumoconiosis. (because of the coal dust)

And you've got a picture of Katharina Porzelt with her daugther Doris, but you wrote, Katharina died in 1866.
The Photo was taken by a fotograph from Kronach, who started working about 1890.
So the picture does not show Katharina Porzelt. Maybe the picture shows Agnes Porzelt-Eichorn, the wife of Georg sen. with her daugther-in-law Dorothea. (the face looks very similar to the picture of Dorothea). Then the Photo was taken about 1917 after the marriage of Georg jun. with Dorothea, when Georg was in War.
(webmaster's note: now corrected above)

My Grandfather Paul has 5 children, 3 sons and 2 daugthers.

1. Porzelt, Matthias Markus Johannes * Kronach 1965,
oo Kronach 02.09.1999 with Heike Mahr
1 son: Maximilian Alexander Porzelt * Kronach .2004

2. Porzelt, Michael Paul * Kronach 1967,
oo Bamberg 09.06.2004 with Bärbel Düster
no children

3. Porzelt, Johannes Gerhard * Kronach 1969,
oo Kronach 12.09.2009 with Jana Fischer
1 son: Nikolas Dietzel Kronach * 2001 (Mother: Alexandra Dietzel (first wife))

4. Porzelt, Alexandra * Kronach 03.02.1972,
2 sons: Daniel Porzelt * Kronach 1993
Christian Eduard Porzelt * Kronach .1993 (Me) (Father: Bernd Fölsche * 1966 + 1993)

5. Porzelt, Andrea * Kronach .1972,
oo Kronach 05.08.1995 with Leander Bayer
no children

Lieber Borglumer,

Ich habe von der Genealogie der Familie Porzelt erfahren.

Ich stoß auf den Namen Porzelt Heinrich.
Ich stamme aus  Schlesien (heute Polen) bin am 11.11.1943 in Mechtal, Kreis Beuthen geboren  . (Bin 65 Jahre alt)(zusammen mit meiner Zwillingsschwester Teresa. Unsere Name lautet SCHIKORA In Polen wurde geschrieben SIKORA
Unsere Eltern waren Gertrud  geb .Wochnik  und Heinrich Schikora

Ich habe den Heinrich Porzelt ( geboren am *01.Dezember 1931 in Kronach*) am 25 .März 1983 in München geheiratet .
* Am 26. April 2007 *ist Heinrich auf Astma *gestorben.*

Unserer Sohn Thomas Porzelt ist zu Zeit 24 Jahre alt ,studiert Informatik an der Universität München.
Geboren wurde er am 18 .Mai 1985 in München

Liebe Grüße an Familie in Amerika

Elisabeth Porzelt
München
----------------

translated to English:
Dear Borglums:
I (Elizabeth Porzelt) found the Porzelt family web page on your website, and stumbled on the name Heinrich Porzelt. I’m originally from Schlesien Germany – now Poland- and was born –together with my twin sister Theresa- in Nov, 1943 in Mechtal Kreis Beuthen. Our maiden name is pronounced “Schikora” in Polish; and is written as Sikora. Our parents are Gertrud (maiden name) Wochnik and Heinrich Sikora.

I married Heinrich Porzelt on March 25, 1983 in Munich Germany (he is listed born Dec 1, 1931 on your genealogy page at http://www.borglum.com/hoss/ ). Heinrich died of asthma on April 26, 2007. Our son Thomas Porzelt was born in May of 1985, and is currently studying computer science at the University of Munich Germany.

Please give my love to our family in America.

Elisabeth Porzelt
Munich

The following is reprinted from emails received ( I LOVE getting emails like this, it's the best part of building this site):

Subject: Jakob Johann Hoss - Robert Hoss

From: m.r.hoss@hotmail.de

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:26:01 +0200

Dear Keith,

My name is Robert Hoss, I'm 46 years old and live in Germany.

Surfing in the internet I found your notice about one of your ancestors. I can give you further informations about Jacob Hoss / the Hoss family in Germany, because Jacob Hoss was the brother of my great-grand father.

I would like to give you a feed back concerning the family picture.

From the right to the left:
Fritz Hoss (Hoß), Jakob's brother, moved in 1920 from Mainz to Cologne after he returned from his captivity as a prisoner of war in France during WW I. There he met his sister Maria. Jacob joined them there (when, is not clear). Fritz died in 1962 and is buried in our family grave in Mainz-Kastel.

Albert Hoss (brother and my grand-grandfather) is right in front of your ancestor Jacob Hoss (who emigrated to the US in early 1920 - that's what my family told me.

Who's the man next to Jacob, I'm not quite sure because due to the results of my investigations (approx. ten years ago) the father of Jacob, Johann Gregor Hoss, died 28.04.1896 (35 years old) in Mainz-Kostheim and his wife Katharina Hoss didn't marry again. So if this photograh was taken around 1920 - he was already dead. I know that there were 6 children (4 brothers and 2 sisters) therefore it's more realistic that the 4th man on the picture is the brother Michael Hoss.

One of the two sisters is Elisabeth Hoss ( Zerbe after marriage - this is the "Zerbe"-branch of our family and I can give you informations as well ). I'll try to get out more about the persons on the picture.

I have documents going back until the middle of the 18th century. Our family lived all the time in a close area ( near Mainz ). The origin is Mainz-Laubenheim. From there Johann Gregor Hoss moved to Mainz-Kostheim in the 2nd half of 19th century, got married and had his family.

Our families history is so exciting for me, therefore I today contacted all people I know to get clear about the "picture". What I knew was that I have seen this picture somewhere in the past and I recognized the discussions about who is who on this picture. Clear was who is your great-great-grandfather and who is mine. Today I visited my parents and my aunt to tell my story and get more information about the picture. My aunt told me that your mother visited us after World War II and your great-great-grandfather Jacob supported our family at that time by sending "care-packages" and more-over sponsored her Communion in the end of the 1940s (?) sending her shoes and a dress.

Tomorrow I'm going to meet a cousin (f) of my fathter to fix the "who is who" of the picture. Anyway, I'm happy to get a small kick to continue my investigations and I'm happy beeing able to support you. I hope my English is not too bad.

Awaiting your next mail with excitement

best regards

Robert

Subject:
RE: new question/relation Michael Hoss?
From:Marion Ruth HOSS <m.r.hoss@hotmail.de>
Date:Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:46:56 +0100
To:Keith Borglum

Dear Keith,

thanks a lot for your mail attached below. Regarding your questions related to the family picture on your webpage (http://www.borglum.com/hoss/images/jacobjohannhoss.html) :

The picture shows the brothers and sisters including your grandfather Jacob Hoss - consequently the title has to be corrected (probably the family tree aswell).

At the time the picture was take, 'JOHANN JACOB HOSS' the father of the six children already died. As far as got told from my relatives still alive, my grand-grand-father 'Albert' (brother of your grand-father 'Jacob') covered the role of father at that time. We can taken into account that this picture was shot to document the family before disintegration.

Regarding Carols answer I see now direct link to our family history (in case of your grandfathers brother 'Michael'. What I can imagine is that from emigration periods more past, that there is any link. We know that the 'Laubenheim-branch' of our family was much bigger than we know now. Moreover after the '30 Years War' in Europe over several periods especially from our region here in Germany people emigrated to America. Your grandfather Jacob participated in one of the last bigger streams due to the reason of big unemployment rate and without propects to the future. This is one part of our common history not only in terms of family.
Coming back to the question Carol addressed to you in origin, there is a chance that in periods more past than in case of Jacob someone of our ancestors from Laubenheim emigrated to the USA. But there are more places in Europe where 'Hoss' or 'Hohs' or 'Hosz' lived or decided to move somewhere else.

At the end of my e-mail, I would like to inform you that my father Albert died 27/02/2006. At that time I tried to contact Anneliese (Kippert) as well but without success. I will take your e-mail to pic up to get clear about here once again and inform you accordingly.

I do hope that my mail will help you. What about Marge ? Please let me know what's the matter with here.

Kind regards

Robert
m.r.hoss@hotmail.de

Hello relative from America,

my name is Dominik Lieb, I am 28 years old and do some family research. My
ancestry ine is as follwes. My great-grandparentsare Josef Zipfel and Barbara
Wachter. They are mentioned on your site. I want to say my thankfulness fro the
pictures of Georg Porzelt and his wife Agnes Eichhorn. I was searching so long
for them in Neukenroth (where they lived) and who guessed they are in America.

However some infos on your site are very questionable. Fist of all, Agnes
Porzelt, my Greatgreatgrandmother was born on 26.1.1877, not 1876.
Secondly Katharina Porzelt, mother of Georg Porzelt did not die in 1866. I have
a document of the marriage of Georg Porzelt and Agnes Eichhorn from 18.11.1876
and there is stated that Katharina Porzelt, unmarried mother of Georg, is alive
and lives in Neukenroth. When exactly she died i am still researching.

Concerning the pictures. You stated some picture with Katharina Porzelt and her
daughter Doris. You were uncertain who is shown on the picture. I can solve the
problem. It is neither the mother of Georg Porzelt nor is it Agnes Eichhorn. The

woman shown has also the name Katharina Porzelt, the young woman is Dorothea,
her daughter (1893-1965). There is also a small family photo, on which George
Porzelt (1894-1933) and Dorothehea are shown. You mention the old woman is
Katharina, the

"paternal grandmother" who was born 1825 and would be over 100 years on this
picture (taken arund 1930). It actually is the same Katharina Porzelt (born
23.9.1866) from the picture with her daughter Doris. You cannot miss the
similarity. One shows a young

Katharina, one an old. So it is actually the maternal grandmother of Heinrich.

I have one last question to you. Two daughters of Adam and Agnes Zipfel went to
america. Probably they are not alive anymore but their children should. Is there

any database for that one can find Immigrant from America to germany? I would
like to ask them if they also have some family pictures.

Lastly I want to give you a family picture of Adam Zipfel and Agnes Porzelt and
all their children. I am very proud of it and want to share as a thank you for
the wondeful pictures of George Porzelt and Agnes Eichhorn. So this are their
grandchildren.

Greetings and for all Ancestors of the family Zipfel, Porzelt Wachter and
Föhrweißer, please contact me if you have more family pictures

-Dominik Lieb dominik.lieb@yahoo.de

Hoss site index info repeated for search engine without tables

Porzelt, Hoss, Keim, Schnappauf, Zipfel, Stadelman, Nothaas, Stadelmann Borglum Genealogy Family Tree
The red color follows the Borglum line back through Margaret Hoss (my mother) and her direct maternal predecessors.
The Hoss family tree follows through Margaret Hoss and her paternal predecessors in the table.
Generations occur from left to right by columnHoss genealogy family tree, the little we know of it. Can you help?
If so, email me
Wendelinus Hoss b 1755 d May 4, 1835 occupation: "wine-grower" (grape grower and/or vintner??) married Maria Anna Neuner b dApr 5, 1829 occupation: field laborer (in the family vineyard??) lived in Laubenheim Germany
Wendelinus' son
Josef I. Hoss b Jun 19, 1796 d Jan 20, 1860 occupation: barber (which might have included minor surgery) married Maria Magdalena Schembs b Jun 17, 1801 d Jun 23, 1857 occupation: field laborer. lived in Laubenheim Germany
(there is much "Schembs, or Schombs," geneology info available at www.schembs.com, but you need a password to get in to the good stuff. You can contact Jim Schembs for a password or more info at jimschembs@cox.net. Some of the following Hoss info was provided by Jim, some of which conflicts with Hoss records,... but that's the way it goes! Jim's Hoss info was discovered online by Robert Hoss, who had Jim contact me)
Josef's offspring:
Martha Hoss, born 17.06.1822
Johann Adam Hoss, born 01.07.1844 (illegal)

Peter Hoss, born 17.11.1823 , occupation: field laborer


Margaretha Hoss, married on 16.01.1845 to Johann Farm, Dornheim


Catharina Hoss, married on 08.02.1848 to Caspar Markloff
Johann Adam Hoss, born 10.12.1847 (illegal)

Sophia Hoss, born 04.07.1824


Adam Hoss, born 05.07.1830 (or 05.04?), occupation: hand laborer, then "markler" (professional clerk I think) , married Anna Maria Hedderick b Apr 25, 1837 d Sep 23 1870,
lived in Mainz, Germany ,
then he married Anna's sister Helene Hedderick (reportedly on Sept 23, 1870, the date of Anna's death)


Barbara Hoss ,born 11.04.1840
Jacob Hoss, born 12.12.1862 (illegal)


Wendelinus' son: son (Johann, below), then generations follow to the right
Johann Gregor Hoss b Jun 11, 1860 d Apr 24, 1896 (occupation: locksmith) married Katharina b Apr1, 1856 , d Mar 15, 1925 (she did not remarry)

Fritz Hoss b d1962, buried Mainz-Kastel
Werner Hoss married Trude

Albert Hoss b Oct 29, 1880 d Mar 8, 1955 occupation: locksmith married Gertrude Dorr b Mar 9, 1880, d Sep 23, 1960
Michael Hoss b Apr 18, 1905 d May 10, 1980 occupation:locksmith married Susanne Becker bMar 10, 1912 d May 29, 1951 then married Gertrude
Albert Hoss b Apr, 1930 occupation: electrician married Helene Marquardt b May , 1936

reportedly one daughter with Gertrude
Robert Hoss b Dec, 1956 married Marion Heussner b Sept, , 1955

Susanne Hoss b Sept , 1963
Elizabeth Hoss married Sebastian Zerbe (Magdalena's brother-in-law) b Feb17,1886 d Nov 5, 1942
other related Zerbes(?): Elizabeth (Merkamp) Zerbe b Dec 6-1902 Berta (Fischer) Zerbe b Mar 23, 1889
Herta Zerbe b Sept 3, 1913 Thomas Zerbe Otto Zerbe

Jakob Johann Hoss citizenship b Mar 29, 1892 d Feb 26, 1953 occupation: machinist then sausage maker married Margaret "Gerda" Porzelt (family tree below) b May 13, 1888 d April 29, 1969
Margaret Hoss b May 24, 1927 married Carsten Borglum b Mar 3, 1924
Keith Borglum (me!) Donna Borglum Craig Borglum Kurt Borglum Ken Borglum Chris Borglum
see Borglum family tree
Magdalena Hoss (name?) b d married Johann Zerbe (Elizabeth's husband's brother)

Michael Hoss b d
Anneliese Hoss married Kippert

Thanks and appreciation to Robert Hoss, who found the beginnings of our version of the Hoss family tree online, and was able to add all Jakob's sibling information and the generations prior to Jakob. You can reach Robert at robert.hoss@degussa.com.
Porzelt genealogy family tree, the little we know of it. Can you help?
Georg Porzelt b Jan 1, 1849 d May 26, 1928 married Barbara Agnes Eichorn b Jan 26, 1852 d Nov 9, 1918

Anna Porzelt married George Keim
Horn Keim married ?
Hans Keim Babbette Keim Gustov Keim Josef KeimGeorge Keim married ?
Anna Keim Maria Keim Gunda Keim Lissy Keim
Katharina Porzelt married Josef Schnappauf
Hans Schnappauf
Monika Schnappauf Paul Schnappauf Paul Schnappauf Margaret Porzelt b May 13, 1888 d April 29, 1969 married Jakob Johann Hoss b Mar 29, 1892 d Feb 26, 1953
Ferdinand Hoss married Ruth Cockburn
Michael Hoss (adopted and name changed to Rossiter after Ferdinand's death )
stepsister Maureen Rossiter
Margaret Hoss b 1927 married Carsten Borglum b 1924

Keith Borglum (webpage) Donna Borglum Craig Borglum Kurt Borglum Ken Borglum Chris Borglum
Agnes Porzelt married Zipfel

Paul Porzelt
Trina Porzelt Hans Porzelt Gretel PorzeltBabbett Porzelt married Hans Stadelmann
Gunda Stadelmann married Max Nothaas
Gerhard Nothaas (policeman)
Kle mens Not haas b 1960
Maria Porzelt married Martin

Georg Porzelt married Dorothea

Heinrich Porzelt
one son Gunda Porzelt married Mattheus Schneider
Elizabeth Schneider Judith Schneider Barbel Schneider Heinrich Schneider Thomas Schneider Ferdinand Porzelt

Margaret Porzelt married Peter Jansen
Evi Jansen Peter Jansen Thea Jansen Josef Porzelt married Judith
Gertrude Porzelt Georg Porzelt